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Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 Isn’t A Rip-Off

 

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Over the past few weeks, I’ve spotted a really stupid trend spreading throughout the minds of disgruntled Capcom fans and such. This trend is the belief that the original Marvel vs Capcom 3 was some kind of beta. Um… Am I the only one who fails to see the rampant stupidity in such a belief?

For starters, betas are ridden with bugs, glitches, and many little nuances that will nag at players and interrupt their gaming on many occasions. None of this applies to the original Marvel vs Capcom 3 which is a finely crafted game that happens to be remarkably bug free and insanely enjoyable to play. The game is very polished through and through, and really the only two complaints about the game that I ever see are “boo hoo, no Mega Man” and “whine whine, no additional offline modes.” Sounds like minor gripes to me. Marvel vs Capcom 3 doesn’t smell like a beta at all, nope. Smells like a fully fledged game that is very well developed.

The reason for a lot of people blabbing that Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 is an extension to a beta that we already played is different though. It has nothing to do with how the original game plays or how it feels, no. People are merely pissed off that they have to pay $40 for this wealth of new content which they all assume should have been in the original game… Not because Capcom planned everything from release (they didn’t). It is simply because all of these naysayers are merely greedy pricks.

Let’s look at some other games out there that threw additional content like this at us, shall we? First off, Diablo 2. Remember that awesome PC RPG? I’m sure many people do since, like Marvel vs Capcom 3, it’s pretty darn awesome. Now remember how fantastic the original Diablo 2 was? It was very playable, very fun, very great… And then about a full year later, the expansion was released. It introduced a lot of new gameplay mechanics, new classes, and new locations to play in. How did people react? “THIS IS FUCKING INCREDIBLE!”

Half-Life 2. A different genre, but another game that is right up there with other great games. Remember when Episode 1 was announced and later released? Everyone went batshit insane with joy. Same deal with Episode 2, and we still have people clammering for Episode 3. Both Episode 1 and Episode 2 were well made and exceptionally polished. They introduced a lot of new areas and enemies, and the fans really enjoyed it and appreciated it all. I don’t remember anyone crying that Episodes 1 and 2 should’ve been part of the original game. Valve wanted to continue the story of Half-Life 2 and give gamers more of what they loved. Doesn’t this sound a lot like, uhhh, the same thing Capcom is doing right now?

Then there are MMORPGs. Monthly subscriptions. This is a pretty crappy way to make people continue to play your games and in most cases it is a necessary evil (I said MOST cases), but nobody really whines about it too much. Heck, nobody even complains about MMORPG expansion packs. What happens when World of Warcraft gets a new expansion? The people who go “lol you have to pay for the game all over again” are few and far between. Most people will instead be analyzing the content and all that, and people will get hyped to visit various new areas, try out new hero classes or races, and so forth. Nobody ever seems to be too bothered by the price at all with MMORPG expansion packs as they instead nitpick about changes that expansions bring to the core gameplay (example: WoW Cataclysm completely changed and simplified talent trees, making people relearn a bunch of crap they already knew).

So if expansion packs are tolerated for higher quality first person shooters, roleplaying games, and MMORPGs… Why are they not viewed in the same light for fighting games? Enter Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3.

We are getting twelve brand new characters and eight new stages. To top this off, there will be new modes to play, tons of new moves for existing characters, and more. The game has even received a completely new look! Such extensive changes prevent Ultimate from merely being DLC or a patch because there’s just too much darn content. There is too much… Expansion. Oh my.

Because of the extensive additions the game is receiving, it is required for it to be distributed in physical disc form only. Essentially we’re getting a $40 expansion pack that doesn’t require the original MvC3. This is where a lot of the naysayers just start plugging their ears and refuse to listen to anything that is said. Look, this is nothing more than a standalone expansion pack to a fighting game. We’ve never had issues with these before, so why now? Just because it is Capcom? Because they cancelled your beloved Mega Man games? What’s the problem here? I played the hell out of the original MvC3 to a point where I justified paying the $60 price tag and then some. $40 more for a wealth of content is just fine in my books.

Look at it this way. Twelve characters. One DLC character usually costs about $5. If we were to receive them all as DLC, it would cost $60. Eight new stages? I’m sure we’d have to pay between $10 and $20 in total for those if they were DLC. Capcom is saving you money, you ignorant fools! People just seem to completely overlook this fact for some stupid reason, presumably because they’re angry that people who didn’t buy the original will only have to pay $40 to get everything (minus Jill and Shuma). So what if new players get the full deal for less money than you did? Street prices of games go down with time after all, and eight or nine months after release I’m sure that MvC3′s price would have sunk by a few bucks at the very least.

So Capcom is saving the money of existing players while also making it cheaper for new players to get into Marvel vs Capcom 3. What the hell is the problem with this? I can answer that. There is no freaking problem!

I didn’t even mention the incompatibility issues that would crop up if Ultimate was DLC. What would happen? Well, for starters, Ultimate players would not be able to fight against Vanilla players and vice versa. There are too many changes to the existing characters, as well as the overall gameplay, in Ultimate for it to ever be a simple DLC patch. Compatibility patches (like the ones Mortal Kombat use) will be 100% impossible. There is just too much data, too many new features. Plus wouldn’t it be unfair for an Ultimate player to go online, fight a Vanilla player, and fight with moves that aren’t even accessible to the Vanilla player? That would be horribly unfair, and it would not be able to be remedied with simple little compatibility patches.

There’s also a ridiculous claim that, because existing characters can refer to the new characters by name when tagging them in and such, apparently Capcom recorded all of these lines from the start and it was all pre-planned. Oh yeah, obviously! Because it is clearly the only possible explanation, right? Capcom decided to do a lot of extra work for content that may not have even seen the light of day. Yeah, that makes sense. “Let’s pay all of these expensive and industry-leading voice actors for extra lines that we may never use.” Great logic guys. Really.

Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 is not “”the full game” and the original was not a beta. This is a standalone expansion that saves ALL gamers money by giving us a wealth of content at a price that is cheaper than we’d see it up for if it were to be offered as DLC (which would be impossible anyway).

And who cares if it is coming out less than a year after the original? Eight months, a year, two years, who gives a shit? Don’t people usually want new content sooner rather than later?

Capcom’s decision to make and release Ultimate are both justified. If you enjoy MvC3 and have played it enough, then there’s really no problem here. Don’t want to fork over $40? Then don’t. The MvC3 fanbase doesn’t need whiners like you. Get lost and go play MUGEN.

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8 Comments on “Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 Isn’t A Rip-Off”

  1. Zero Terra Force August 10, 2011 at 6:18 AM #

    Yeah, everything is alright, but where the hell is MegaMan X, Gene, Gambit and Venom that we voted to appear in the game!? Why we should buy an expansion without the things we needs? (I will buy the game anyway, but without X and Gene, this will not be the same)
    And yeah, the worst here is the cancelation of MegaMan games, ha ha ha (seriously! im a Rock/Megaman Fan!!) Doesn’t matter how, but i want to see X fighting along with Zero again, thats mi wish!

  2. Aentik August 10, 2011 at 4:28 PM #

    this is quite decent good points and i can care less about mega man although i do respect him one of my fav music nes files but id say some of this picks for the characters are not what many alot of people wanted even though i particularize my case they actually gave me from the beginning what i wanted Akuma Dante X – 23 Felica Morrigan and Ryu and now they are givin me my most desired at last Master Vergil and i do wanted Nemesis for Strider Hawkeye and Ghost rider even firebrand seems like my new anti wolvie im glad for me that they gave me what i wanted!!

    i actually complain more like they should`ve included Jill and Shuma for the ones we bought the game as maybe a bit of game incentive from Capcom`s part if i were to complain that bad as mega man fans woould be fromt he Shitty new game DMC which is like rape to the real Devil Masy cry fans that has no reason to support at all id rather buy thousands of timesd UMVC whatever more versions to come than that idiotic UNNEEDED reboot anybody likes!!

  3. Speedy87 August 12, 2011 at 11:57 PM #

    Well , it is a matter of opinion but your wrong , i would guess your not a capcom fan, if you were you would know the complaints are justified … For example shuma and jill were on disc already ( 100kb download for character ) , so that’s just capcom milking more money and that shows the direction they took with this franchise ( same as sf4 / ssf4) , the small gameplay tweaks dont justify , same goes for stages and characters , considering the current roster it was their buissnes plan from the get go , bringing 2 additional characters on disc and asking for money to unlock them , considering the graphics and how much a char would weigh in mb’s id say 50mb max , so it has nothing to do with disk space either , anyway i could go on and on , to sum it up …. Taking those games as stand alone expansions and comparing it to this game its just wrong , u get no value for money here its not like d2 … Because u had to have the original disc to play the expansion , same goes for mmo’s… In this case you basicly throw the old game away and have to buy the same game with some tweaks and new characters …. What if i only want strider and not firebrand? Why dont i get to choose ? Anyway hope that explained it …. Peace !!!!

  4. Adam Karonika (@DanAdamKOF) August 16, 2011 at 8:00 PM #

    Came across this blog post randomly and I definitely agree. Anyone who’s complaining about paying for what is essentially “too many fighting games coming out in a short period of time” needs a smack upside the head. They definitely don’t realize how good the fighting scene has it right now, especially compared to the lackluster stretch we had a few years ago.

  5. paul August 20, 2011 at 8:46 AM #

    I’ll bite.

    You’re being ignorant. Everything that you claim justifying that UMvC3 should be disc-based falls short when you look at, wow, Burnout Paradise. All of their “upgrades” were released as DLC and guess what – they decided to push a GAME update forcing everyone to be on the same boat (cars, missions, ISLAND) but if you wanted to have it for yourself you had to pay the unlock fee.

    Still, if you did not have the “Paradise Island” DLC but was playing online with someone who had it, you could actually go there.

    Don’t be a prick. Capcom is pretty much making money and that’s it. Don’t try to say they’re saving me money…

  6. Fuzzy Kittens (@KittenCollision) August 20, 2011 at 7:44 PM #

    You’re comparing a capcom money stripping campaign to valve’s half life series. the difference between the two is that one is a fucking fighting game, and the other is a well crafted story line. new maps in fighting games =/= new maps in adventure games.

  7. Adam October 3, 2011 at 11:41 PM #

    Thank you for the “opinion”. Honestly I know how they feel. Capcom has a long history of re releasing games with some superlative adjective like “Turbo”, “Super” or “Ultimate” and calling it a new game. They may add characters, costumes, new moves or balance over or under powered fighters. In the end it’s the same game that I paid $60 for a few months ago. Why did Capcom do this? Because they can! It’s something along the lines of “If you build it, they will come.” Game companies have learned that no matter how much whining and moaning “we” do, “we” will continue to buy what they offer. When it comes to pre order bonuses, downloadable content, renamed rereleases (U:MVC3), or sequels that should be DLC, they know we will gladly cough up a little more to keep current with the latest games. Our “author” seems to be content with this business model. For those of us that are not so content, there is only one recourse, stop giving them your money! We can rant, rave, complain, whine, beg and plead; as long as they still hear the sound of money being counted we will never be heard. How many times have you purchased a new game to find that it only has 4 hours of game play or the game is just plain bad?
    I decided to stop all that. Did I stop playing games? No. I stopped buying them. I signed up for the Blockbuster Movie Pass with unlimited rentals. They offer DVDs, Blu-rays, video games and TV/computer streaming too. For just $10 per month I can play any game as long as I want and send it back. If it sucks it goes back that day. Join me in my boycott. If you don’t need that $10 map pack, if you don’t need $5 worth of new outfits don’t buy them until they are included with the game you bought in the first place. Do what I do instead and keep your hard earned money out of their hands.

    • Daniel October 4, 2011 at 12:29 PM #

      “Our “author” seems to be content with this business model.”

      It’s because I thoroughly enjoyed MvC3 and sunk FAR more time than $60 into the game. Anyone who has played the balls off of the game should not complain about buying UMvC3.

      If you play a game enough, you will fully justify the price you paid. I’m not okay with lesser game updates such as Super Street Fighter 4 AE which essentially just added two characters (I refuse to count Evil Ryu and Oni). UMvC3 is a very substantial update in comparison, and it’s in fact quite irritating to see angry people on the internet condemning. Who cares if it is coming out less than a year after the vanilla release? Release time frame isn’t important – quality of the product is. This is where UMvC3 succeeds massively.

      I honestly see no reason for complaining unless an interested consumer has no money, and Capcom has no obligation to tailor to those people. If they can’t afford a very large and significant upgrade to a really fantastic game for only $40, then that it is their own problem. Not Capcom’s.

      The bottom line, period, is this: If you play a game enough, you will justify paying whatever amount you spent to purchase it. This is not a belief, this is not an opinion, this is a fact. It is a fact not only applies to video games, but any other product. This includes automobiles, cell phones, musical instruments, pants, toasters, and just about everything else in your home. Play MvC3 enough and the price of UMvC3 is no issue. Consider it a cosmetic upgrade that adds additional functionality to a product you have already used extensively. That’s what the intelligent consumers are doing. Folks who are whining about the cost and Capcom milking everyone are not the intelligent consumers. Being edgy and rebellious doesn’t always mean you’re in the right. Frankly, it just makes the anti-UMvC3 crowd look like a bunch of spoiled and upset douches.

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